Participation Certificate

Last post 08-14-2008 2:46 AM by Cosmin Ilie. 10 replies.

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  • 08-06-2008 1:17 PM

    Participation Certificate

    Hello! well I sent this email 7 days ago to support@imaginecup,com and nobody has replied so I thought here maybe someone will:

     

    Dear Sir or Madam,
     
    I would like to ask if it is possible to obtain a certificate of participation for I'm being asked as a proof that I have competed in Imagine Cup and Scored the result I claim.
     
    I competed in the IT category and ranked as the 7th in IC 2008 under the name 'ServiceDown'. a friend of mine is in the Software Development category and he was able to get that certificate from a local Microsoft Office because the competition was conducted locally first; however, in the IT category we don't deal with any local office.
     
    So is it possible to obtain such a certificate? it is extremely important to me.
     
    Thank You!
    Alaa Ajweh

  • 08-06-2008 1:55 PM In reply to

    • Tim
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    Re: Participation Certificate

    support@imaginecup.com is not a valid email address, which is why you never received a response. You must use the Contact Us form on the website if you want to get a response.

    Certificates of participation are available all year long on the website for any given year, but since we are into the 2009 year the 2008 certificates are no longer available. You should have been automatically emailed one when you signed up for the competition. Have you checked your inbox for that timeframe?

    Tim Heikell
  • 08-06-2008 1:58 PM In reply to

    Re: Participation Certificate

    MVP, MCI,MCP,MOS,MCT,TS630
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    https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Valy.Greavu
    Service Down: good to hear about you.
    Unfortunatelly the certificate of participation can be obtained only from a Microsoft subsidiary in the country or region. This year we brought back the issue discussed issuance of certificates of participation, but I think everything will remain at the discretion of each country, how that will manage this process.
    Tim: are you sure?! I'm not so sure that an e-mail could be considered and certificate of participation when you want to apply for a job or internship...
  • 08-06-2008 2:31 PM In reply to

    • Tim
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    Re: Participation Certificate

    Yes, I'm sure, here is a screen capture from last years site. Whether or not this is accepted by a company depends on that particular company. This is the only certificate we have ever provided from corp, what the subsidiaries do is seperate from what we do.

    Service Down: you could also try contacting your local subsidiary to see if they provide certificates.

    Tim Heikell
  • 08-07-2008 1:18 AM In reply to

    Re: Participation Certificate

    MVP, MCI,MCP,MOS,MCT,TS630
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    https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Valy.Greavu

    Tim, you're the boss... so you're right [:)], but can you tell me how many competitors have used that option?
    Also, assuming that does not participate in any one round of the Imagine Cup, I can still register and download the certificate. Can you tell me what is its value in this case?
    An electronic certificate valid, even in Romania, is one that contains an electronic signature, similar to those which can be obtained from the MCP. The other may be made in PhotoShop and have no value for serious companies.

    We are talking here about the case of a student who ranked in the Top 10 in IT section. I think he deserves a little more attention. I agree that Microsoft subsidiary from his country should give them such a certificate, but would not be bad to be improved this process, automated and popularized, direct via Imagine Cup site, because are many students who ask the some question.
  • 08-07-2008 1:23 AM In reply to

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    MVP, MCI,MCP,MOS,MCT,TS630
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    Very interesting way that I writing ... Hmm
    Signature above and then write the columns. MondoR. this is a special feature for me? [:)]
  • 08-07-2008 6:13 AM In reply to

    Re: Participation Certificate

    Tim I know about this option.. tried it 2 years ago. it only puts your Name, Country, School... its more of a name tag than a certificate.

     As i said earlier, I need a certificate to prove my result for example:

    Alaa K. Ajweh has competed in IC 2008 and scored as the 7th on the world scale - IT Category.

     Thanks for your time guys, let me know if anything comes up.

  • 08-07-2008 11:42 AM In reply to

    • Tim
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    Re: Participation Certificate

    Every competitor gets a certificate sent to them when they sign up for a competition. The certificate is specific to the user and shows every competition they signed up for and their level of advancement in each competition (round 1, round 2 etc). Providing a certificate with an electronic signature is and interesting feature request, but I have to say, at this point I think this is the first I have heard that our existing system is not adequate. None the less, I have made note of this request to evaluate for possible inclusion in the future.

    Tim Heikell
  • 08-11-2008 1:08 AM In reply to

    Re: Participation Certificate

    Hi,

    I have to agree with Valy on this matter since I've had some problems with employers that didn't think that much about this competition as there was no security element on the certificate.  An electronic signature will solve this issue. Also for the IT Challenge where the curriculum is similar to MCP or MCTS exams, and students show some degree of knowledge in the field, a more appealing certificate would increase the popularity of the competition, by getting students study more and see this a step in getting their MCP, MCTS certification.

    Regards,

    Cosmin

    http://www.themastersofphotography.blogspot.com/
  • 08-12-2008 1:35 AM In reply to

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    MVP, MCI,MCP,MOS,MCT,TS630
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    https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Valy.Greavu

    Cosmin, I am not totally agree with you. Examinations of the MCP, MCSE are more difficult than the Imagine Cup.

    Yes, it is necessary for a diploma or a certificate of participation, electronic or not. I agree that these certificates are issued by Microsoft subsidiaries in each country, because in this way and they have a record of students with potential and involvement in their country.

    Each ADE has access to a source of information internal competition, and therefore is very easy to identify details about competitors and their exact dates and status reached.

    Must be specified in the rules of competition that should be their duty to issue such certificates. Too, would be great if they could give bonuses depending on the number of certificates issued [:)]
  • 08-14-2008 2:46 AM In reply to

    Re: Participation Certificate

    Hi,

    Valy, as stated above, by no means did I conclude on the questions being on the same level as those for a certification, but we have to agree that a competitor that makes it into the second round or final has some basic knowledge of how these products work and how these can help an organization.  For me personally Imagine Cup is a step towards becoming an IT Pro, and getting certified, so this certificate could provide the proof for me that (the important thing is not that this is given by the local ADE or competitors can download a certificate online) I have been active in the academic filed while I was a student and as such was reworded with a certificate which will be at the base of my CV.  As regards to the technical side of this thing we can look at how other companies do this to find possible solution. Personally I feel that the digitally signed pdf file that Cisco Network Academy offer's at the end of each module could be a viable alternative.  This by no means should be considered equivalent to a certification, but it should have value and show that during his academic period the student had shown interest and some basic degree of knowledge in the technologies that are requested here.  The current certificate does that but till a point which I believe can be improved and the most important thing be digitally signed  so that, forging or tampering with it becomes impossible.

    Btw very interesting way to post, on 2 columns ;)

    Regards,

    Cosmin

    http://www.themastersofphotography.blogspot.com/
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